Brow! I am MBA 2nd semester student and i got 3.75 CGPA. I also ACCA 2nd part Student. Brow mai yea kehna chahta houn k ACCA k 3 parts hain unn mai sy pehla MCQ,s type hai total. Or brow America ki aik qualification hai CFA (chartered of Financial Analyst) brow uss k 3 level hain. Brow aj tk Pakistan jb sy bana hai less then 200 peoples sirf wo lay sakkay hain. Brow uss mai admission requirement hai ACCA, CA, CPA, or MBA with 5 years experience. brow hamaary sabiq President nai Level 1st pass kernay per 1 lakh or 2nd level per 2 lakh or 3rd level per 3 lakh salray rakhi thi q k jo kerta tha wo out of country chala jata tha, Brow or wo sara ka sara MCQ's per hai. Ab iss sy ziada mai ap ko kya keh sakta houn.
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On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Muhammad Umair <muhammad.umair.491@gmail.com> wrote:
main factor which plays a role in solving papers either it is MCQ or a Subjective question is CONCEPT.Yes, I agree with you....But can MCQs play good role in building concept? No...jisay MCQs aatay hon gay, zaroori nahin k woh long questions solve kar sakay...par jisay long questions aatay hon gay, woh MCQs bhi yaqeenan solve kar sakay ga, kyun k MCQs long questions se hi banaye jatay hain....what you say about programming language courses...do you think that by solving MCQs students will become better programmer? No, students will only become better programmer only if they are given in the paper long questions which require you to write programs and not definition of 5 marks or theoretical questions........Secondly, immense sharing of past papers and MCQs at dozen of forums
here has also made it so easy to solve papers.kia aap samajhtay ho k koi past papers dekh kar concept clear kar sakay ga...100% wrong...concept practice se aata hai....past papers se shayad ham woh questions tou theek tarah se samajh lain jo past papers mein solve hain, par subject ko theek tarah se samajhnay k liay jo cheez chahiye hoti hai woh practice hai....main apnay ird gird k students se jab poochhta hoon (apnay campus k) tou ziada tar yehi kehtay hain k MCQs dekh liay hain...jin ki weightage bhi ziada hoti hai...woh theek ho gaye tou pass ho jaoon ga/gi.... jab long questions wala paper pattern hota tha, tab tou koi aisay nahin kehta tha....Dear Umair, in the absence of such solved data, it is impossible to get distinctions u are talking about. U can't even solve a single assignment or GDB.
but I can...--On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Virtualian <mc090407168@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
Dear all AOA
I do not agree with Mr. Umair mainly because main factor which plays a
role in solving papers either it is MCQ or a Subjective question is
CONCEPT. If one's concept is clear, than, he/she can write dozens of
pages on a particular subject and can also accurately solve MCQ. So
knowledge contribes in evey way. As far as VU pattern is concerned, we
all know that its era of IT, the whole world is adopting latest IT
techniques is almost all functions of life including education. So
online education is another form of distance education but more
popular than conventional distance education like AIOU. A VU student
has double advantage that No. 1 = he/she get degree of whatever he is
studying and N0. 2 = VU degree speaks itself that the degree holder is
also computer literate so no other certification required for vu
student with respect to computer knowledge.
Secondly, immense sharing of past papers and MCQs at dozen of forums
here has also made it so easy to solve papers. What we have to do is
to just open our inbox and bulk of credible solved material is
available mainly from VU Askari and its competent team members. We all
know that key to success in exams is to consult past papers and when
we can easily get these papers why one should not get good marks. Dear
Umair, in the absence of such solved data, it is impossible to get
distinctions u are talking about. U can't even solve a single
assignment or GDB. I know many frinds of mine who are not members of
any gound due to their limited know how and they are suffering alot.
One senior firend who was enrolled in VU in 2008 has just cleared his
MBA this time securing 2.50. So it is not so simple and easy that u r
saying. Pls tell me how can u prepare urself a day before exams if u
don't have any past papers. Its impossible but it has been made
possible by VU Askari and their very competent and hardworking team
for who spend their days and nights to solve past papers just for our
convenience. U please go to VU Askari members like Hafiz Salman, Maha,
Asad Munir and ask them how easy is to solve past papers. Hamen paki
pakai mil jati hei hamara kam sirf khana hota hei, jab k mushkil kam
to pakana hota hei Umair bhai.
On 3/16/11, mc100402403 Kashif Nazir <mc100402403@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
> Dear All,
> Actually VU and AIOU are for job persons who have some practical experience
> so this paper pattern is quite good. I think full time student should not
> come there rather they should go to institute like PU, GCU etc. Because
> basic concepts, confidence level of a job person and student often vary a
> lot.
> Moreover if you look at MCSE or other online Microsoft certifications all
> have MCQS pattern and even in international institutes adopt MCQ pattern.
> In short in my opinion full time student should not come there.
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Muhammad Umair <
> muhammad.umair.491@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Rizwana, I am not talking about applying at LUMS or Harvard
>> university
>> or whatever else...
>>
>> I am saying that this MCQs paper pattern is degrading our university.
>>
>> Your ID is mc100403082, which means that upcoming semester is your 2nd.
>> But I am studying in VU from last 7 semesters.
>>
>> Fortunately, my first two semester had long questions' paper pattern. At
>> that time no one said that this university has low quality education. No
>> one
>> said that its degree has low value. No one said that you studied from
>> computers therefore, you don't deserve a job. No one said that we did not
>> give internship to VU students and so on....
>>
>> If you have some friend in VU who has studied in VU before Spring 2008
>> semester, then you can verify my above thoughts from him/her whether I am
>> saying right or wrong.
>>
>> Now, every one says that VU has low quality education. My friend told me
>> once that when he went for internship in a bank, the bank said that we
>> don't
>> given internship to VU students. Why?
>>
>> earlier when there was long questions paper pattern, I did not hear even
>> a
>> single such instance ... but I now frequently hear about such instances
>> from
>> the last two years or so...
>>
>> Furthermore, with this MCQs paper pattern, one gets the marks that one
>> does
>> not deserve. It has happened with me too on many occasions. When, I did
>> not
>> knew the subject that well as was depicted by my marks in that particular
>> subject. Why? This did not happen when there was long questions' paper
>> pattern. But this does happen in MCQs paper pattern.
>>
>> Secondly, I am not saying that everyone gets marks that they does not
>> deserve. Of course, there are students who are hard working. If you are,
>> then it is good. But, I am saying that most of the students get marks that
>> they actually don't deserve.
>>
>> I saw the result of MGT201 final term in Spring 2008 semester. and 71%
>> students were fail in that subject. and the highest marks were 78. No one
>> got A grade. Even, at that time, those students fail in this subject who
>> had
>> a very good past result in their first semester. But now, many students
>> get
>> A grade in this subject. Do you think that those students who get A grade
>> in
>> this subject know this subject very well. Of course, some intelligent
>> students do, but not all of them. In fact most of them don't know this
>> subject that well. So why they get the marks that they don't deserve? Only
>> because of MCQs paper pattern.
>>
>> I told you my own example, I got 79 marks in CS410 but I don't know 7.9%
>> of
>> this subject.
>>
>>
>> Had you taken admission at the time I took admission in VU, then you were
>> going to agree with my thoughts...
>>
>> Take Care
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:25 PM, mc100403082 Rizwana Kaleem <
>> mc100403082@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>>
>>> Okay then you should apply at LUMS or even Harvard. As far as I am
>>> concerned , I am studying with full sincerity, and I know from
>>> experience,
>>> that when you work towards something with diligence and sincerity, you
>>> are
>>> always rewarded.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Muhammad Umair <
>>> muhammad.umair.491@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Assalam o alaikum
>>>>
>>>> Dear Fellows, VU aik thaki hooi university hoti ja rahi hai waqt
>>>> guzarnay
>>>> k sath sath....
>>>>
>>>> mera aap se aik question hai....
>>>>
>>>> kia aap nay result mein jitnay marks liay hain individual subjects
>>>> mein....kia aap samajhtay ho k aap ko utna achha subject aata bhi
>>>> hai.....
>>>>
>>>> sab se pehlay main apnay baray mein batata hoon...
>>>>
>>>> mera result yeh hai
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fall 2010 CS410 Visual Programming 79.000 3.93 B
>>>>
>>>> Fall 2010 CS506 Web Design and Development 80.000 4.00 A
>>>>
>>>> Fall 2010 CS508 Modern Programming Languages 65.000 3.00 B
>>>>
>>>> Fall 2010 CS614 Data Warehousing 65.000 3.00 B
>>>>
>>>> Fall 2010 MTH603 Numerical Analysis 83.000 4.00 A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yeh jo main nay highlight keea hai, is mein 79 marks tou aa gaye...par
>>>> yeh subject mujhay 7.9% bhi nahin aata....I am feeling ashamed that I
>>>> got 79
>>>> marks in this subject when I don't know even 7.9% of this subject...
>>>>
>>>> baqion mein main keh sakta hoon k mujhay utna achha aata hai jitna k
>>>> meray marks hain........par , vu ka ghatiya paper pattern hamari
>>>> university
>>>> ko degrade kar raha hai.......aaj kal har koi kehta hai k vu ki degree
>>>> ko
>>>> har jagah nahin maana jata....believe mein....jab long questions wala
>>>> paper
>>>> pattern hota tha tou us waqt koi bhi is university ko aisa nahin kehta
>>>> tha...sab is k gun gatay thay....par ab har koi is k baray mein aisi
>>>> waisi
>>>> baatain karta hai.....THINK ABOUT IT....
>>>>
>>>> jab main nay apnay first 2 semester mein long paper pattern k hisab se
>>>> papers diay thay tou us waqt utnay hi marks aatay thay, jitna k parha
>>>> hota
>>>> tha ya jitna achha subject aata tha.....par us k baad kahani badal
>>>> gayi....vu nay ghatia paper pattern introduce kar dia....
>>>>
>>>> aao sab mil kar naara lagayain...
>>>>
>>>> MCQs wala paper pattern na-manzoor....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [image: happy.gif]
>>>>
>>>> mujhay us waqt bahut hairat hooi jab main nay apnay ird gird logon k
>>>> results ko dekha jo FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT jaisay subject mein 60 % se
>>>> ooper
>>>> marks le gaye.....even aakhri din parh kar paper denay walay students
>>>> bhi is
>>>> subject mein pass hain....aur main nay yeh subject mid term mein 34%
>>>> marks
>>>> lenay k baad drop kar dia tha, yeh soch kar k final mein pass nahin ho
>>>> sakoon ga...
>>>>
>>>> is mein logon nay A grade liay hotay hain.....Assembly Language jaisay
>>>> subject mein A grade aaye hotay hain.....
>>>>
>>>> aap shayad yaqeen nah karo....Financial Management woh subject hai jis
>>>> ka
>>>> main nay Spring 2008 ka final term result dekha tha tou 71% students
>>>> fail
>>>> thay is subject mein.......is ko pass karna K2 sar karnay k mutaradif
>>>> hota
>>>> hai.....par ab logon nay is subject mein A grades liay hotay
>>>> hain.....stats,
>>>> research methods, assembly language aur kuch doosray subjects bhi isi
>>>> category mein aatay hain.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hamaray sir hamain kehtay thay us waqt k students VU ki mushkil study ko
>>>> dekh kar university chhor jaya kartay thay....ab agar chhor kar jata hai
>>>> tou
>>>> kyun??? is liay k yeh university degrade ho rahi hai.....nah k is wajah
>>>> se k
>>>> education tough hai.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ham sab kahan ja rahay hain........???
>>>>
>>>> Your comments will be highly appreciated....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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