Dear Umair,
I sympathize with you and I can understand that you are having doubts. I know its disheartening that banks refuse to accept VU graduates. All I am saying is DO SET YOUR STANDARDS HIGH, and have faith in your hard work. There is no limit except the ones that exist in your mind. You know if you have secured good gpa from VU(overall), you can always go to PU or even LUMS for a year additional to upgrade your degree. Being 39 years old and having some experience in the job market as well, I can tell you that all employers appreciate a candidate who continuously improves himself/herself. So work hard and leave the rest to God.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Muhammad Umair <muhammad.umair.491@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear, it is good that you got good marks....aap ki baat se yehi pata chalta hai k aap aik hardworking student ho....par main yahan un instances ki kar raha hoon jab MCQs se utnay marks aa jatay hain jitna k hamain subject achha nahin aata hota.....long questions k paper pattern mein aisa nahin hota tha....
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:40 PM, mc100400752 Zohaib Butt <mc100400752@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
yar ap log yea daikh rahay ho k logon k itnay marks q ay yar meray jitnay friends thay unn mai sy kisi k bhi 2.5 sy opper marks nahi ay. ksi k 1.9 hai kisi k 2.1 aisay hi sb k hain or kai to fail bhi hain. meray sath study ki unho nai bht ko mai nai guide bhi kiya mai nai thodi c mehnet ziada ki or meray 3.75 CGPA aya lekin meray 10 ya 12 friends ka kisi ka aisa nahi aya jb k jo MCQ's meray pass thay unn k pass bhi thay or bhai mazay ki baat bataon mai nai Past papers k MCQ's kiyea hi nahi jb kernay baithta to dil hi nahi kerta mai nai sirf handouts or different books study ki or koi lec bhi nahi liya. to ab mai kya kahun meray sath jo howa mai nai wo bataya ap ko lekin handouts mujay sbhi atay hain 45 k 45 lectures.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Virtualian <mc090407168@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
Yar u best deserve to be in Harvard or Cambridge. We r Pakistani and we love our education system which is accomodating us with all latest possible technologies. Har cheez ki apni wieghtage hoti hei. Ap ne nahi man-na vu ki credibility ko to y r u studying here since 2008, better to quit vu or challenge its degree in court. Papers ki length se agar kisi degree ki credibility nahi sabit hoti. Phd paper ki lenght b utni hi hoti hei jitni primary level papers ki hoti hei to kya koi farq nahi Phd papers mein and primary level paper mein. Es tarha to meray bhai Phd k papers ki length itni honi chahye k paper 3 days se pehlay khatam na ho. We are students of Master level and es level par ratta laga k paper attempt karna motive nahi hota bal-k understanding and concept building pe concentrate kia jata hei. Ap lecture sunen, handouts consult karen, internet pe relevant material ko study karen to ap k lye koi be question chahy subjective ho ya MCQ ho koi meaning nahi rakhta. Agar vu ki degree ki koi credibility nahi to kyun es waqat around 50,000 students enrolled hein yahan par. And har degree ki apni value hoti hei kahin pe AIOU nahi chalti to kahin Vu, kahin pe Preston nahi mani jati to kahin Al-khair ki nahi mani jati. Laiken ye k vu ki degree totally unacceptable hei its totally wrong.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:05 PM, mc100205493 Asia Sabir <mc100205493@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
In my point of view vu pattern is best and at the same time it ise pattern of many international universities .In my point of view in long question pattern one can easily pass the exam because can write a lot of relevant and irrelevant to prolong the answer in this way he can easily obtained passed markes and Ratta System is als very helpful in this pattern that is not good on the other hand in MCQs pattern one have to studied whole material and ones concept should be cleare as if there are 20 MCQs in a paper and if you have not viewed these 20 lines or your concept is not clear simply you have lost the paper .MCQs can be answerdeonly if your concept is clear so i think MCQs and short question pattern is best because in this pattern you have to studied full material you can not leave even a single line so brother how can you say that this pattern is not good .I think it is best.--
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Virtualian <mc090407168@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
Umair bhai akalmand k lye ishara kafi hota hei esi tarha concept
building k lye MCQs b ek ishara hi hota hei. Han ek cheez mein ap ki
favor karoon ga wo ye k kuch logon ki writing skills ya english
language skill achi nahi ho although k unhen reply ata hota hei, and
vu mein asisy log b accomodate ho jay hein but it does not make
significant difference. MCQs se ap apna concept develop kar sakty hein
agar karna chahen but mein again kahoon ga k hamarey hissay ka kam VU
ASKARI kar deta hei, kya wo log tukkon pe past papers solve kar k
upload kar dety hein. Nahi bhai wo log raten jag jag k different books
and reference and internet sites etc etc se consult kar k hamen paki
pakai kheer de detay hein jisko kha k hamen maza zarur ata hein magar
us k peechey ki hui mehnat nazar nahi ati. Agar yehi kam ap ko karna
pary to ap ka conecet b clear ho jye ga.
Past papers ki importance se ap deny nahi kar sakty. Ap market mein
jao dekho ap ko CSS, ISSB, MBBS etc etc k past papers mil jyen gay to
kya wo paglon ne likhay hein ya wasiey hi likhey hein and kyun log
unhen paisey de k buy karty hein. Agar ek CSS karney waley ko past
papers ki zarurat hoti hei to MBA walon ko kyun nahi.
Mr. Umair if u can solve assignment and GDBs at you own without any
help, it good but i am talking on part of thousand of those ppl who
are doing jobs, managing their families who do not get ample time to
prepare themselves independently for the exams. Waisey be sirf MCQs ko
agar 100% b solve kar lein to b ap 4 ya above 3.09 GPA le sakty hein.
Nahi bal-k es k lye subjectives ko b attempt karna parta hei. Kinay
logon ne 3.9 ya es se zyada achieve kia hei kya wo sub incompetent
hein ye kya unho ne sirf MCQs k through top kia hei?
Meri dua hei k ALLAH sub ko ap jaisa mind and intellect dein. AAMIN.
On 3/16/11, mc090401434 Hasnain Mehmood <mc090401434@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
> I agree with Mr. Umair to some extent
> and to some extent not.
> yes its a fact that even those students get good percentage who don,t have
> enough knowledge.
> But where the actual reason lies is not only the paper pattern
> Yes the paper pattern needs improvement
> adding some lengthy questions
> But main thing is not to repeat the previous question as it is
> but at least with different wording
> especially MCQs
> and
> i think paper pattern should be changed every three years
> so that same questions can't be repeated
> i am not denying the current system of MCQs prevailing and applicable in all
> universites
> as it is a good tool to test knowledge and concepts instantly.
> So its all what i want to say
> but its not right to say that Vu is totally a bogus type University as it is
> effectively spreading the knowledge to far and poor people at cheaper cost
> As something is better than nothing
> and VU is better than something although is not everything means need
> improvemnt here.
> thanx
>
> --
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We say, "Be one as Pakistani Nation and grow up for Pakistan's Future". Wish you all the best.
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With Best Regards
MBA (2nd semester)
Zohaib Butt
Gujranwala.
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--
We say, "Be one as Pakistani Nation and grow up for Pakistan's Future". Wish you all the best.
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